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Ignatius of Loyola

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Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Paulus on 02 Oct 2007, 15:03

Hi specialists......(william,peter,ivar,javier and all the rest!),

Is there a walking track /route which Ignatius of Loyola has walked.....like a Camino?
I did never heard of it but someone told me that it is in the North of Spain and that it is a 14-days walk.
I walked the North route myself in that part and never encountered anything.
Or did he came from Pamplona?? Javier????

I'm very interested in some answers... :)
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby JohnnieWalker on 02 Oct 2007, 17:02

Gosh Paulus that got the old memory cells working. I remember it was recorded that he certainly went on pilgrimage to Jerusalem and I had a vague memory of another pilgrimage on foot to Montserrat. There is a reference here: http://www.gwleibniz.com/britannica_pag ... atius.html

No doubt Peter will be able to shed some light on this.

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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Peter Robins on 02 Oct 2007, 18:04

I'm not aware of any modern route, but it would presumably follow his own pilgrimage, from Loyola/Azpeitia to Barcelona, Montserrat and Manresa. I've not read his autobiography, so don't know whether it records details of his route.

He went by sea to Italy and Jerusalem (and was only there briefly)
http://www.luc.edu/jesuit/ignatius.bio.html
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby robtward99 on 02 Oct 2007, 21:43

Regarding not Ignatius of Loyola but Francis Xavier, there are huge pilgrimages at the beginning of March each year to the castle of Javier, near Sanguesa, from every part of Navarra. These are known as las Javieradas.
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby robtward99 on 02 Oct 2007, 21:57

Bingo! I googled 'Ignacio pereginacion montserrat' and came up with this web address: http://www.ciao.es/Cueva_de_San_Ignacio_Manresa__Opinion_1198882
There are some small photos on the left side of the page. Click on any of them and you'll see more, including a map of the route Ignatius followed from Loyola to Montserrat, Manresa and Barcelona. (It briefly touches the Camino, from Navarrete to Logrono). Now whether people still make pilgrimages along this way is another matter.
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby KiwiNomad06 on 02 Oct 2007, 22:36

I visited Montserrat a few years back and up above the monastery the hills are incredibly beautiful. If anyone ends up near Barcelona for any reason before/after the Camino, Montserrat is a truly magnificent place to visit. I have a few photos and an account of my day trip here: http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/margar17/Montserrat.htm

(By the way, my writing talks about 'steep stretches". The path I went on was not hard but I was very anaemic at the time as it turned out, so any walking was tiring for me.)
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby JohnnieWalker on 02 Oct 2007, 22:56

Well, well, that certainly appears to be a route - that would take about 14 days?

Well done Rob - really interesting.

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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Peter Robins on 03 Oct 2007, 08:59

the bulk of that route (from Logroño) is simply the Camino del Ebro (supposedly the route used by St James when leaving Spain) and Camino Catalán, but in the other direction. A route between Manresa and Montserrat is being upgraded as part of the Catalan government's Camins Sagrats project.

The first bit though is unusual, as it does not appear to use any established road but go straight over the mountains (which makes me wonder whether that map is correct).
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby JohnnieWalker on 03 Oct 2007, 10:21

Peter your reservations about the map notwithstanding how long do you think it would take? It might be excellent walking and the destination is of course stunning.
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Peter Robins on 03 Oct 2007, 11:29

http://www.gronze.com/camino-de-santiag ... dional.htm gives Logroño-Montserrat as 470km and 16-17 days. Add another 60km or so - 2-3 days - to central Barcelona. The first bit from Loyola would depend on which way you go - about 100km by crow.
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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby michael on 06 Oct 2007, 12:29

While we are on the subject of other routes I was recently in SW France on holiday.
Returning one night to where I was staying I turned off the N116 direction Perpignan at Ille-sur-Tete. Most of the signs about the town had blue and yellow Camino signs on them and seemed to be indicating a route which was odd because I was heading south east generally away from SdC.
Anyone know which route this is part of? Next big town up the road is Prades but that is opposite direction. Ille-sur-Tete is also a long way south but still east of Toulouse where I understood the southern routes across France headed for.

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Re: Têt valley

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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Paulus on 06 Oct 2007, 16:28

GREAT!

I knew that you would not dissapoint me! I did give the info to the person who asked the question!

THANKS!

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Re: Ignatius of Loyola

Postby Peter Robins on 06 Oct 2007, 18:51

I've discovered there is a Camino Ignaciano, the GR21, which connects Javier and Pamplona with Loiola. I suspect this is what the person you met was referring to.
http://www.euro-senders.com/web_cas/grspain/gr_021.htm
http://www.spain.info/TourSpain/Deporte ... anguage=en
http://www.gipuzkoaoinez.com/web/ficha- ... 1&idioma=C

aka Ruta Ignaciana
http://www.spain.info/TourSpain/Deporte ... anguage=en
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